Device Details

Patrick, can you add the new "Push" tag for this device?

Done.

Thanks a lot for this device, I should point out I am currently using to change presets on VSTis that support midi program change. Super usefull and super fast for this task.

PatrickDSP,

Does bank only goes up to 16? or I am doing something wrong?

That's correct. it only has 16 banks. 128 programs x 16 banks = 2048 presets. more than enough for most hardware synths. But I could increase it if you'd like.

Hi Patrick, thanks for the answer.

Yes it would be very usefull to increase it up to 127, some vsti's allow up to 127 folders.

This for Push control of vsti's is great

Thanks a lot for the update!

First off thanks for the device ! I'm actually not able to change instrument / sounds from the push on massive could you help me please ?

Read the manual for massive to enable program control changes.

http://www.native-instruments.com/en/support/knowledge-base/show/87/how-to-switch-plug-in-presets-via-midi-program-change/

Hi! First of all great work man :)

I was wondering if there is a way to map the panic/reset buttons to a key or midi and if so is there anyway that when i press it it defaults to a default program such as [Bank=0; Sub Bank=0; Program=33].

The reason for this is because sometimes during live performance sometimes Ableton doesn't load the proper program (I'm using Massive btw as my main synth) and because of that i must have a safe button to instantly change the program to a safe one.

Thanks
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I've added Midi and Key mapping as well as an initialise button for the whole device. you can also call what ever patch you want by typing in the number, you don't need to scroll with your mouse.

But in your case a faster way to change default program and bank numbers would be within your midi clips in Ableton. just have a number of empty midi clips set to program patches you use live.

Scroll down to the section called "Using Program Change Messages"
https://www.ableton.com/en/articles/using-external-synthesizers-live/

Good luck.

Excellent. Thank you!

Sometimes when loaded this plug seems to lose the ability to update push on my machine. I can get by by simply reloading but is slightly weird.

this is crashing live 9.1.6b3 when saved in a project template but loads okay in a default midi track

Works fine in my project template. Try not to rely on beta versions and use the full version of live 9.1.6 instead.

On first look this patch seems very awesome! Just wondering does anyone have this working with an external synth like a Tetra or a Phatty, who wouldn't mind showing a walk through video of the feature set controlling an external synth?

How do I use the velocity "option"? I'm a bit confused...

I'm experiencing problems about 50% of the times i load my sets containing this device. The trouble I'm having is that it sends out an unwanted prg change message every other time it is loaded thus changing all synths and effects connected with it rendering me with a track sounding quite different from the night before. That is when I don't press save(big no no!) and instead reload the set in question hoping it will load correctly which it most often does.
However, at numerous occasions I've had to remove and reinsert the device since it seems to suddenly loose it's function altogether. I keep twisting the knobs but no messages are being sent. That's when i've been forced to delete the plugin from the track and then load it into a MidiEffect Rack chain which I have muted, to prevent the prg change message being sent on. I then redo the mapping and unmute the chain. Most of the time it works excellent but it gets a bit annoying when you've done it loads of times especially on large sets. Maybe a button for switching Program Change and Bank change on/off, by default set to off.

Another thing I've pondered with this great device is why Expression is Foot Ctrl CC#4 and not Expression CC#11.
And while I'm at it, I really liked the previous version 2.x.x when it still had the touchstrip functionability. Dedicating the touchstrip of Push exclusively to this device made it possible to have any other track selected even audio tracks and still have the dedicated function of the touchstrip. When using the touchstrip as a "Global" PitchBend this seems to me the most sensical way since tracks nowadys are autoarmed. It was a bit buggy but it was still cool. With the updated function of your device as well as Push I have to manually select my "MidiCtrl"-miditrack and then play with the touchstrip thus taking away some of the spontaneity of it. I hope you understand my point. I also liked the different modes of TouchStrip functions...

Either way I am most grateful for your work!

Hello SanJoler,

I took some of your considerations into effect. I've added a default OFF state for the patch/bank selector to stop resetting synths to patch 001. Added a toggle for the foot control between MIDI CC 4 or 11 (foot control or foot expression), click on the panel name to toggle.

As for bringing back the Push Pitch Bend, the java scripting to control it was a cause of a number of problems with this patch. Otherwise, this patch just contains basic midi messages. The soon to be released Live 9.2 gives you the ability to switch Push's touch strip from a pitch bend to a mod wheel, thus eliminating the need for this function. https://www.ableton.com/en/blog/live-9-2-in-public-beta/


JohnRozz: this patch was originally made to provide feed back while using push or another midi keyboard to control external hardware. Velocity is tied into the modulation section, so you can assign input velocity to any parameter within ableton. ie, Input velocity can control the amount sent to an reverb effect.

Patrick DSP:
That is awesome, will try it out! Thanks!

I noticed that the touchstrip was a bit buggy in your previous version so I can understand you let go of that. I can't figure out though how to make the touchstrip Pitch Bend several instruments while having a Drumrack selected, making it scroll up/down the drumrack instead when i touch the strip. The touchstrip seems to always be dedicated to the track that is armed or selected. Maybe I'm missing something.

Great job!

Hi, this is an awesome patch, but i have a problem with this. I have clips with program change on my live set and when i play one of them the Keyboard Control 2.2.4 only recognice the program but no the bank :(
If i change the bank from the Keyboard Control 2.2.4 the Virus C is ok but if i made a bank change from a clip the Keyboard Control 2.2.4 made it didn't works.

Could you solve this?

Sorry for my poor english lol

Sorry it works well, i made a bad config of the channels lol

This patch will make my virus buttons live more years :D

Hi!
I'm looking for a possibility to send multiple program change messages with a single clip. Simply by drawing an automation. Looks like this should be possible with your device!
Unfortunately I dont get any output of an program change message... Is there something special i have to pay attention to?
Thanks!

as stated above...

***UPDATE 2.2.4***
Added a default OFF state for the patch/bank selector to stop resetting synths to patch 001.

so, expand the patch and enable program changes.

Works! Thanks! :)

Hi,
Thank you for such a great device! It has helped me out a lot!

I have a problem though, i'm desperately trying to map the sustain pedal port to control Looper with just a momentary MIDI-message. I can't get the pedal to control looper without switching to usermode and this is a real struggle.. Any solutions to this? The looper multipurpose controller is not showing up in the list of available parameters either.

Hallo,
Ive tried you plug in and really like what its doing.
But I have one problem.
When the Plug in is on a midi track It seems when is switched to on that its blocking all other midi messages thru my external synth ?

Cant modulate anything else than the mapped pitch wheel.
Any Idea ?

Hi Patrick,


I'm running 9.7.5 and I use 8 instances of this DSP, 1 in each track.

I've been getting some random crashes when the Sustain is ON. It may not crash quite after I turn ir on but eventually after a few seconds or even minutes it will.

Btw has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks