Device Details
Overview
| Name | Version: | KEYPITCHER - change transposition with a keyboard 1.0 |
| Author: | bennniii |
| Device Type: | MIDI Effect |
| Description: | pretty simple: i've always wanted to "play" the pitch of samples (in e.g. a drumrack) with a keyboard. this device allows it. 1) place on *own* midi track and set your input (e.g. for your keyboard) 2) map to transposition parameter (of e.g. drumrack) 3) set your base note (which equals the current transposition value) 4) play it. try an arpeggiator etc - it's fun! features: - when first mapped, automat uses your current parameter/pot values. - allows 3 different note-off settings (see image) - intuitive key control - works throughout your set |
Details
| Live Version Used: | 9.1.2 |
| Max Version Used: | 6.1.7 |
| Date Added: | Jun 10 2014 17:12:57 |
| Date Last Updated: | Aug 04 2014 12:28:36 |
| Downloads: | 2001 |
| ⓘ License: | AttributionNonCommercialShareAlike |
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Files
| Device File: | KEYPITCHER v1.0.amxd |
Comments
ps: i was (am?) wondering why nobody else has written something like this, as it is pretty straight forward and seems quite practical. if i should have simply overlooked an existing device similar to this one, i'd be glad to know.
Posted on June 10 2014 by bennniii |
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benni, so awesome, another homerun!
Posted on June 11 2014 by mossby |
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thanks so much, mossby :) i appreciate that you like it!
Posted on June 12 2014 by bennniii |
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Dude you're a genius. Everything you're making is what I've been needing. I hated how Ableton made it so difficult to tone your 808s
Posted on June 14 2014 by jeffromusic |
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damn, man! jeffro! i'm lacking words- thanks so much :)
i'm really loving this max stuff. if there's anything you'd like to see patched (from scratch - for things you see lacking in live or of course within the current devices), tell me!
i'm really loving this max stuff. if there's anything you'd like to see patched (from scratch - for things you see lacking in live or of course within the current devices), tell me!
Posted on June 14 2014 by bennniii |
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damn, man! jeffro! i'm lacking words- thanks so much :)
i'm really loving this max stuff. if there's anything you'd like to see patched (from scratch - for things you see lacking in live or of course within the current devices), tell me!
i'm really loving this max stuff. if there's anything you'd like to see patched (from scratch - for things you see lacking in live or of course within the current devices), tell me!
Posted on June 14 2014 by bennniii |
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Dude you're a genius. Everything you're making is what I've been needing. I hated how Ableton made it so difficult to tone your 808s
Posted on June 14 2014 by jeffromusic |
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Really interesting. If I understand you correctly, you could put an arpeggiator in front of it and intentionally move the pad pitches around in quantized steps as a beat plays on. Sounds nice.
I wonder how this would sound mapped to other parameters or pitched instruments, either fed from a sequencer or in a clip from a drum loop? What makes the device unique to pitch-only parameters? Are tone knobs measured on a different ratio/scale?
Some questions: If you are just using this to transpose and tune a drum rack, what separate offsets are you using for your base key on drums/snare/toms? Just feeling it out, using some tuning theory, or basing it on general midi or sample recording positions on conventional gear?
If you are transposing each pad with the same base, I guess it would make sense to only map one keypitcher lane to a single master transpose dial, right?
What practical use are you getting out of this in the studio? Can you keep this device in your template session and understand how you are tuning your kits, or are you just playing up/down chromatically on the keyboard until you hear what you like? Could you tune your drums to the pitch center for a bass line, for example, and base this on the key that you have chosen, and are the partials and non-linear harmonics on a drum really going to match up to the pitched instruments? And what trade-off are you making to the percussive nature of the drums if you're trying to pitch them to everything else?
Lots of users here are experiencing a Eureka moment with this plugin, so I'm wondering what kind of apple needs to land on my head to see the practicality of working with this? Maybe a case example? How about in a performance, non-studio, situation...
I wonder how this would sound mapped to other parameters or pitched instruments, either fed from a sequencer or in a clip from a drum loop? What makes the device unique to pitch-only parameters? Are tone knobs measured on a different ratio/scale?
Some questions: If you are just using this to transpose and tune a drum rack, what separate offsets are you using for your base key on drums/snare/toms? Just feeling it out, using some tuning theory, or basing it on general midi or sample recording positions on conventional gear?
If you are transposing each pad with the same base, I guess it would make sense to only map one keypitcher lane to a single master transpose dial, right?
What practical use are you getting out of this in the studio? Can you keep this device in your template session and understand how you are tuning your kits, or are you just playing up/down chromatically on the keyboard until you hear what you like? Could you tune your drums to the pitch center for a bass line, for example, and base this on the key that you have chosen, and are the partials and non-linear harmonics on a drum really going to match up to the pitched instruments? And what trade-off are you making to the percussive nature of the drums if you're trying to pitch them to everything else?
Lots of users here are experiencing a Eureka moment with this plugin, so I'm wondering what kind of apple needs to land on my head to see the practicality of working with this? Maybe a case example? How about in a performance, non-studio, situation...
Posted on August 27 2014 by braduro |
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hello braduro.
i'm glad to hear all the thoughts you have about this device :) to be quite honest, my approach was less "philosophical".
the arpeggiator-idea is good. i've actually tried it and it brings some nice effects (especially when mapped to *rather* tonal percussion such as rims or toms). this is basically the main use for me; use percussive instruments in a more tonal fashion and also do so in a live environment. it's more of an aesthetic, compositional approach for me than a technical one. obviously you could tune a kick to a baseline by "matching" their tune. try it! as you may know this is done occasionally.
as for harmonics: i guess this very much depends on the pad/sample you control. the behaviour though should be the same as with any instrument that has non-linear harmonics; they should pitch proportionally (or?).
as for other parameters: the difference between a pitch- and a e.g. volume knob in live is its range - you are very correct. it would be no big deal to change the range within the plugin, making it compatible with other knobs. i've not yet found the need for this functionality, but i could add it if you want to. obviously, we'd need a rangeselector, then.
i'm glad to hear all the thoughts you have about this device :) to be quite honest, my approach was less "philosophical".
the arpeggiator-idea is good. i've actually tried it and it brings some nice effects (especially when mapped to *rather* tonal percussion such as rims or toms). this is basically the main use for me; use percussive instruments in a more tonal fashion and also do so in a live environment. it's more of an aesthetic, compositional approach for me than a technical one. obviously you could tune a kick to a baseline by "matching" their tune. try it! as you may know this is done occasionally.
as for harmonics: i guess this very much depends on the pad/sample you control. the behaviour though should be the same as with any instrument that has non-linear harmonics; they should pitch proportionally (or?).
as for other parameters: the difference between a pitch- and a e.g. volume knob in live is its range - you are very correct. it would be no big deal to change the range within the plugin, making it compatible with other knobs. i've not yet found the need for this functionality, but i could add it if you want to. obviously, we'd need a rangeselector, then.
Posted on August 27 2014 by bennniii |
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Hey, what about a midi through switch.
And min/max range for triggerig FX by key value.
Thanks.
And min/max range for triggerig FX by key value.
Thanks.
Posted on August 21 2018 by lore |
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hi,
thank youuuuuuuuuuu.
this is so coool
always wanted this.
love it.
x
thank youuuuuuuuuuu.
this is so coool
always wanted this.
love it.
x
Posted on September 14 2018 by jjbabydarling |
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https://maxforlive.com/library/device/1778/note-pitch-to-parameter
Posted on October 10 2019 by jjbabydarling |
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